certs - polled how many read the document. - consensus reached to go to the IESG consent-framework - not enough people have reviewed the document - ~ 30 people care about the document - chairs recommend people who care review the document outbound - no objection to use of 430 Flow Failed response code - Bug A: need to mention rport: agreed that in addition to adding text for rport, also provide a pointer to the NAT scenarios document. - issue B: verify outbound support on first hop or all hops? support for only require first hop and registrar. no objections to this option. - issue C: max-flows parameter: propose defer. much discussion about whether or not - working group in favor of deferring max-flows parameter with small minority disagreeing - Christer/Rohan suggest to use 430 to reject additional flow registrations when they occur and the home proxy wishes to reject - Issue D / E skipped - Issue F: Detecting instance-id binding rules: rohan proposed take issue to the list. AD (Cullen) asked to make a decision on this today. Decision: will not do anything on this issue in the doc. fix it later if required - Issue 3G: Binding behavior without flow-tokens - 3GPP doesn't want to be forced to use flow-tokens all of the time - options 1) leave draft as is 2) relax flow token language slightly 3) replace reg-id with two new parameters - option 2 make flow token language fuzzy - option 3 splits into path-id which means I want this path to the instance stored, ob in a contact means UA wants outbound flow-token behavior - wg consensus on option 2. - rohan agreed to post changes asap to the list domain-certs - much argument about this work not being required or it being obviated by other work - asked interested parties to post to the list and to arrange a follow-up call sometime in the next two weeks to resolve the issues connection-reuse applicability of this document, in light of JDR's work on mid-dialog, needs to be discussed on the DNS conference call - question to the wg: should we continue with this work if we can only half the number of TLS connections between proxies that aren't separated by NAT. about 5 to 1 opposed continuing the work. take the question to the mailing list. sip-sips-guidelines - item 1 out of place - echoes what is in 3261. could provide a reminder in the doc - should keep 2 and 3 - need more thought on 4. should be couched in should terms, giving more discussion on what would happen if you don't follow the recommendations. gruu - comfortable with the privacy model in the doc: lots of yes, more don't knows. conclusion is that people need more time to think. - "all in favor of keeping the gruu parameters in gruu-11" - yes: small #, no: small #, don't care: large number